tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8466669636390432992.post1526068117016617178..comments2023-05-02T11:21:05.387+01:00Comments on it's okei!: Entwinedokeihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14977365975861176505noreply@blogger.comBlogger54125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8466669636390432992.post-75365799941421880462009-11-03T01:44:25.000+00:002009-11-03T01:44:25.000+00:00I loved the music is the first vidI loved the music is the first vidCyn *http://cailet.multiply.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8466669636390432992.post-90091816561596272072009-11-02T21:51:49.000+00:002009-11-02T21:51:49.000+00:00I'll be back... cant watch these right nowI'll be back... cant watch these right nowCyn *http://cailet.multiply.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8466669636390432992.post-73544604694509204432009-11-02T18:07:01.000+00:002009-11-02T18:07:01.000+00:00Re: doing & being, I'm reminded of the fil...Re: doing & being, I'm reminded of the film "Subway" which I saw and loved several years ago and highly recommend. The opening credits ran the following quotes...<br><br>To do is to be. --Socrates<br>To be is to do. --Sartre<br>Do-be-do-be-do. --Sinatra<br><br>This was immediately followed by a car chase... <br><br><br>Tremendous start to a film before we descend to a slower pace in the "beauty" of the subway.okei jamintoohttp://jamintoo.multiply.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8466669636390432992.post-1722104743245105782009-10-31T18:14:13.000+00:002009-10-31T18:14:13.000+00:00Thank you Emma! You actually read this whole long ...Thank you Emma! You actually read this whole long thread? Impressed! Feel free to browse around, join in the discussion, or wander back some other time. But most of all, be happy! :^)okei jamintoohttp://jamintoo.multiply.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8466669636390432992.post-80781043113285138772009-10-31T18:10:06.000+00:002009-10-31T18:10:06.000+00:00Well, we have to do our best to come to our own un...Well, we have to do our best to come to our own understanding. What you say is to guard against self-deception, which is the same as the journey to the heart - difficult.<br><br>Again re: good & evil, there are three rules:<br>"1. Do not commit evil;<br>2. Do good devotedly;<br>3. Purify your mind." <--- purify mind/heart means connect to your deeper self, or your journey to the heart.<br><br>I find the idea of "being good" or using good as an adjective difficult to grasp, because in both cases it is relative. There's a joke, "a saint is someone whose life hasn't been researched enough". For sure, it's only a joke, but I think you have to go beyond judging people, desires etc. in this way. The idea of <i>doing</i> good is much simpler and more rich.<br><br>I read a comment recently about using the terms skillful and unskillful as an alternative to good and bad. Personally I like this idea because it emphasizes the shades of gray and the purpose of the good and bad.<br><br>And finally, I was saying that ultimately one might go beyond the duality of good and bad. But this is only for the "enlightened" ones. The above rules then no longer make sense, but then one who is enlightened has no longer any need for these rules.<br><br>So, yes, ultimately we do need to hold on to our concepts of good and bad in the meantime. (Though not get too addicted to labelling things with them. That's just my opinion, and I think we might disagree there, but that's fine. :^))okei jamintoohttp://jamintoo.multiply.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8466669636390432992.post-77656849740083072972009-10-31T11:24:47.000+00:002009-10-31T11:24:47.000+00:00You write good poems, sir. And you hold great disc...You write good poems, sir. And you hold great discussions, too. Thanks for letting me read your stuff here.emmaleth mayhttp://emmaleth.multiply.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8466669636390432992.post-54339354048965109382009-10-25T05:48:36.000+00:002009-10-25T05:48:36.000+00:00I think you're right about Buddha being misund...I think you're right about Buddha being misunderstood re: desires. My understanding is that he believed that attachments or clinging to those desires is the cause of suffering. He desired to be enlightened as you say. But as for good/bad, it's confusing but I think to label things good or bad is a habit of the mind and like your journey to the heart, you go beyond these concepts, but I'm not sure exactly.<br><br>Oh, and I loved what you said above... it's a question I've been struggling with... if you go beyond human passion/will, what replaces it? Love & Goodness is a good answer I think. And happiness perhaps as a by-product.okei jamintoohttp://jamintoo.multiply.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8466669636390432992.post-36120061162321382192009-10-25T05:38:59.000+00:002009-10-25T05:38:59.000+00:00Had said----Your heart is different than emotions....Had said----<br><i>Your heart is different than emotions. Emotions can fool you--and delude many. But the heart never does. Not if you know it well. But that is the biggest and hardest journey for many.<br><br>"The greatest explorer on this earth never takes voyages as long as those of the man who descends to the depth of his heart"" Few make that journey""<br><br>Seems the mermaids had an unabandoned kind of sharing and caring. And I bet they knew their responsibility too<br><br>Very visual poem--good job</i><br><br>I remember reading your quote about the heart a while back on your welcome page. It's a difficult journey because there's no map and it's so easy to get lost. And then I don't know for sure if you ever reach your destination or just get closer, but yes, that's a very inspiring thought and I hold onto it.<br><br>As you say, the mermaid pair are demonstrating some of that true love of the heart. And I'm especially happy that I conveyed the "visual" because it was a very visual idea that inspired it.okei jamintoohttp://jamintoo.multiply.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8466669636390432992.post-76198790323650569852009-10-24T21:22:08.000+01:002009-10-24T21:22:08.000+01:00I don't believe Desire is wrong --if it is for...I don't believe Desire is wrong --if it is for good and kept pure (I don't mean untouched). But that seems to be the hard point for many.<br><br>Those who believe in a God--know he has desires which are always for good. It's in the book. <br><br>And didn't Buddha desire more to be enlighten? Perhaps he meant wrongful desires and those that use their desires for selfishness, Because if you look at his other teachings he has much to say on bad desires, bad friends and living. Sometimes I think people don't want to look at all the teachings but like to pick and choose want supports them (which is selfish) All the Prophets spoke of twisting of their word.<br><br>Does great passion come with desire and ego? Sometimes, but it comes other-ways too. Sometimes just great love or goodness or joy (etc) fuels the fires. And it can be a flame that can't be put out easy**Had Enough**http://hadenough1.multiply.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8466669636390432992.post-27452017447430421102009-10-24T21:07:03.000+01:002009-10-24T21:07:03.000+01:00Ahh but that is where people get confused--they do...Ahh but that is where people get confused--they don't understand <br>There is only one kind of love, but there are a thousand imitations. They fool themselves even. What many don't understand and never will is Your heart is different than emotions. It's not just what you feel that makes someone love someone in their heart. How many say-"you are in my heart? or I really love you" Just about everyone. They have not separated the two --emotions from heart. They don't understand the difference. Emotions can fool you--and delude many. But the heart never does. Not if you know it well. But that is the biggest and hardest journey for many.<br><br><br>"The greatest explorer on this earth never takes voyages as long as those of the man who descends to the depth of his heart"" Few make that journey"" <br><br><br>I enjoyed your poem very much. (very much) Seems the mermaids had an unabandoned kind of sharing and caring. And I bet they knew their responsibility too<br><br>Very visual poem--good job**Had Enough**http://hadenough1.multiply.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8466669636390432992.post-22232053254624009882009-10-23T00:49:25.000+01:002009-10-23T00:49:25.000+01:00Yes... they love both...And placing and throwing w...Yes... they love both...<br><br>And placing and throwing work equally well. ;-)))Cyn *http://cailet.multiply.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8466669636390432992.post-74855868635131611072009-10-23T00:26:24.000+01:002009-10-23T00:26:24.000+01:00My site is "open" to all. :^) But no, I&...My site is "open" to all. :^) But no, I'm not her contact yet. I think I get some of her posts in my inbox though.<br><br>I took on your suggestion and changed "placing chestnuts on the ground" to "dropping chestnuts on the ground" and a few other little things. I could have even had "dropping peanuts on the ground", lol, but then squirrels love chestnuts too, don't they?okei jamintoohttp://jamintoo.multiply.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8466669636390432992.post-65380857595132605382009-10-22T06:17:30.000+01:002009-10-22T06:17:30.000+01:00Is leanne one of your contacts? She would love you...Is leanne one of your contacts? She would love your postsCyn *http://cailet.multiply.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8466669636390432992.post-45113390615482256972009-10-22T06:17:05.000+01:002009-10-22T06:17:05.000+01:00maybe it does happen that way... just not for me....maybe it does happen that way... just not for me...<br><br>You know, I was a little afraid of them too at first.. it was a mutual trust buildingCyn *http://cailet.multiply.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8466669636390432992.post-48926363037757517862009-10-22T05:59:40.000+01:002009-10-22T05:59:40.000+01:00Thanks a lot for describing it!! I was imagining t...Thanks a lot for describing it!! I was imagining the squirrel as running away, pausing and instead of running away again.... turning round... but it doesn't quite happen like that..... trust is such a difficult thing, eh! Thanks again for the lovely explanation. :^)<br><br>Edit: and I posted the poem to Leanne's guestbook. :^)okei jamintoohttp://jamintoo.multiply.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8466669636390432992.post-90879590960517836652009-10-22T05:33:46.000+01:002009-10-22T05:33:46.000+01:00the squirrels where I go are very tame....But I st...the squirrels where I go are very tame....<br><br>But I stay in one place... I open some peanuts... and drop a few around me and then I act like I am not interested in them...<br><br>They sneak up to me and get the peanuts... I do not move.<br><br>I place the peanuts closer and closer to me... some run up to me when they see me coming... I am starting to see distinguishing characteristics in them... there is one whose nose is bigger and darker that makes a beeline for me when I show up at the same place.<br><br>All you have to do is act like you will not try to touch them when you feed them and they learn to trust you...<br><br><br>This took months though...Cyn *http://cailet.multiply.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8466669636390432992.post-82743551355031778942009-10-22T05:24:28.000+01:002009-10-22T05:24:28.000+01:00Woohoo! Glad you liked it... might change "ha...Woohoo! Glad you liked it... might change "had cuts" to "has cuts". Will show it to Leanne. :^) But I do wonder about how a squirrel behaves as it turns round and approaches you... it's something I've never experienced myself, that magical moment of trust.okei jamintoohttp://jamintoo.multiply.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8466669636390432992.post-19768685806866963782009-10-22T05:20:48.000+01:002009-10-22T05:20:48.000+01:00I think it is perfect! you must get Leanne to see ...I think it is perfect! you must get Leanne to see this!!!!Cyn *http://cailet.multiply.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8466669636390432992.post-44767950661090601502009-10-22T05:18:23.000+01:002009-10-22T05:18:23.000+01:00I have a fifth blog to hide away within this one, ...I have a fifth blog to hide away within this one, another poem by me and another type of love, which I could have called "Blessed Friendship" to fit in with "Blessed Bliss" and "Blessed Longing" below, but I chose a different title instead. Cyn, you will recognize this as the story Leanne told about her squirrel friend on one of your blogs. But my only experience of squirrels is them running away from me, pausing and then running even further away, so I wonder how exactly they behave when they approach you? And whether my descriptions are accurate... so please do point out any factual errors or ideas I should have ideally tried to include.<br><br><b>Squirrel Won The Lottery</b><br><br>Up the branch he makes a dart,<br>Flicks his tail and looks around,<br>Down at the girl who made him start<br>Dropping chestnuts on the ground.<br><br>Cautiously he does descend,<br>Grabs a nut, then jumps away,<br>But soon the girl becomes his friend<br>And how she wishes he could stay!<br><br>But he must go and gather nuts<br>And hide away from winter’s frost.<br>Her fingertips still bear the cuts,<br>Love bites that were friendship’s cost.<br><br>So for her friend one early morn,<br>She fills her bag with nuts she's found<br>And empties them onto the lawn<br>And hopes in spring he’ll be around.<br><br>--okeiokei jamintoohttp://jamintoo.multiply.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8466669636390432992.post-38875676321649714742009-10-21T04:48:12.000+01:002009-10-21T04:48:12.000+01:00In the end, it does not matter...In long term rela...In the end, it does not matter...<br><br>In long term relationships often passion fades.. but it does not have to. It depends on what the expectations are...<br><br>bliss is about as good as it gets... <br><br>Cyn *http://cailet.multiply.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8466669636390432992.post-62139429862979236882009-10-21T02:13:02.000+01:002009-10-21T02:13:02.000+01:00Thanks Cyn!! I posted this "mini-blog" o...Thanks Cyn!! I posted this "mini-blog" on the Buddhist travellers group site and got a similar response of preference of the first of the two poems. I hadn't expected that, lol. Thanks again for the encouragement.<br><a href="http://roulette404.multiply.com/journal/item/3461/A_Question_about_Love" rel="nofollow">http://roulette404.multiply.com/journal/item/3461/A_Question_about_Love</a>okei jamintoohttp://jamintoo.multiply.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8466669636390432992.post-20319715364724700322009-10-21T02:08:16.000+01:002009-10-21T02:08:16.000+01:00I just realized that I'd accidentally left the...I just realized that I'd accidentally left the last verse off the Goethe poem. So this is corrected now. (Also, the third and fourth lines were supposed to mean literally the one who fully alive flames towards death so I rendered that pretty loosely and I hope my version of the "dancing eyes that sparkle for death's final tear" convey the spirit of what he meant.)<br><br>Actually, the Goethe poem reminds me of some of the Lalla verses I posted about desires and ego being burnt up in the furnace of Love. But once desire is burnt up, what is left to fuel one's passion? Or is it a continuous process of burning? (And by passion, that would include the love of a mother for her child, it is a motivating powerful love that awakens her to do great things in its name.)<br><br>In the last watch of the moonlit night,<br>remonstrating with my wayward mind,<br>I soothed my pain with the love of God.<br>Gently, gently, accosting myself,<br>"O Lalla, Lalla, Lalla",<br>I woke my Love, my Lord and Master,<br>Absorbed in it, my mind was cleansed.<br><br>I, Lalla, suffered the fire of love.<br>Before death I died without a trace.<br>Reborn without colour or creed, and without them,<br>I left me. What else could I do?<br><br><a href="http://jamintoo.multiply.com/recipes/item/11/Songs_of_Lalla" rel="nofollow">http://jamintoo.multiply.com/recipes/item/11/Songs_of_Lalla</a>okei jamintoohttp://jamintoo.multiply.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8466669636390432992.post-8860519279919964962009-10-21T02:02:29.000+01:002009-10-21T02:02:29.000+01:00Sorry, Cyn!! It's a "brain workout",...Sorry, Cyn!! It's a "brain workout", lol.okei jamintoohttp://jamintoo.multiply.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8466669636390432992.post-38121138603739809002009-10-20T02:43:47.000+01:002009-10-20T02:43:47.000+01:00I that is not how I see your poem...I see it as si...I that is not how I see your poem...<br><br>I see it as simple joy....<br><br>Passion? What is that except a building up of thwarted desire?<br><br>It is short lived.<br><br>Cyn *http://cailet.multiply.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8466669636390432992.post-61074276291116449302009-10-20T02:39:45.000+01:002009-10-20T02:39:45.000+01:00Ah, you overwhelm meAh, you overwhelm meCyn *http://cailet.multiply.comnoreply@blogger.com